Comments on: WATBlog’s Take on India’s Outlook towards Cyber Terrorism and How To Impeach Privacy http://www.watblog.com/2008/07/31/watblogs-take-on-indias-outlook-towards-cyber-terrorism-and-how-to-impeach-privacy/ The Refreshing Blog on Web, Advertising and Technology in India! Wed, 08 Feb 2012 06:34:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Shāyon http://www.watblog.com/2008/07/31/watblogs-take-on-indias-outlook-towards-cyber-terrorism-and-how-to-impeach-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-9623 Shāyon Mon, 04 Aug 2008 10:27:16 +0000 http://www.watblog.com/2008/07/31/watblogs-take-on-indias-outlook-towards-cyber-terrorism-and-how-to-impeach-privacy/#comment-9623 <b>@ Maneesh</b> Thanks for the words of encouragement, man! ;-) @ Maneesh

Thanks for the words of encouragement, man! ;-)

]]> By: Shāyon http://www.watblog.com/2008/07/31/watblogs-take-on-indias-outlook-towards-cyber-terrorism-and-how-to-impeach-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-9622 Shāyon Mon, 04 Aug 2008 10:18:20 +0000 http://www.watblog.com/2008/07/31/watblogs-take-on-indias-outlook-towards-cyber-terrorism-and-how-to-impeach-privacy/#comment-9622 Whoa! Take a chill pill, folks! <b>@ Raghav</b> Yes, I do understand that the Indian government can always outsource the mastermind to help them thread the whole idea into reality. However, I am not too sure if you're aware of the fact that the brightest of the brains in the country happen to be employed by he defense? Yes, I do agree that, more often than not, there's disappointment. Yet, I always have faith in the country's intelligence bureau! They might be a bit slow, 'coz of lack of exposure, but are yet better than the mosta round the globe! Coming to your idea of mobile verification, even if I consider your given figures (regarding number of subscriptions) accurate, I think I should give you a piece of info that 5 years back, I didn't possess a cell phone but did happen to be a proud of 56 working email addresses :-) I guess you are smart enough to gather my hint. <b>@ Annkur</b> I love the zeal with which you fight for what you believe in. You say, every thing one does on the internet is logged? Well, yeah, it's true. But how do you trace a certain activity back to the right individual? <b>@ Sakshi</b> Yes, I know that it is a huge concern over a man's privacy. But did you ever stop back and think about the little question of faith on which I had concluded this article? <b>@ Shalini</b> Hehe...it was actually supposed to be a satirical post, u know ;-) Whoa! Take a chill pill, folks!

@ Raghav

Yes, I do understand that the Indian government can always outsource the mastermind to help them thread the whole idea into reality. However, I am not too sure if you’re aware of the fact that the brightest of the brains in the country happen to be employed by he defense? Yes, I do agree that, more often than not, there’s disappointment. Yet, I always have faith in the country’s intelligence bureau! They might be a bit slow, ‘coz of lack of exposure, but are yet better than the mosta round the globe!

Coming to your idea of mobile verification, even if I consider your given figures (regarding number of subscriptions) accurate, I think I should give you a piece of info that 5 years back, I didn’t possess a cell phone but did happen to be a proud of 56 working email addresses :-) I guess you are smart enough to gather my hint.

@ Annkur

I love the zeal with which you fight for what you believe in.

You say, every thing one does on the internet is logged? Well, yeah, it’s true. But how do you trace a certain activity back to the right individual?

@ Sakshi

Yes, I know that it is a huge concern over a man’s privacy. But did you ever stop back and think about the little question of faith on which I had concluded this article?

@ Shalini

Hehe…it was actually supposed to be a satirical post, u know ;-)

]]> By: Maneesh Madambath http://www.watblog.com/2008/07/31/watblogs-take-on-indias-outlook-towards-cyber-terrorism-and-how-to-impeach-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-9621 Maneesh Madambath Mon, 04 Aug 2008 09:29:22 +0000 http://www.watblog.com/2008/07/31/watblogs-take-on-indias-outlook-towards-cyber-terrorism-and-how-to-impeach-privacy/#comment-9621 Super post Shayon.. you have kicked up quite a good discussion here... Super post Shayon.. you have kicked up quite a good discussion here…

]]> By: raghav soni http://www.watblog.com/2008/07/31/watblogs-take-on-indias-outlook-towards-cyber-terrorism-and-how-to-impeach-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-9615 raghav soni Mon, 04 Aug 2008 06:43:25 +0000 http://www.watblog.com/2008/07/31/watblogs-take-on-indias-outlook-towards-cyber-terrorism-and-how-to-impeach-privacy/#comment-9615 read my word carefully this is wat i said:"can do right is to outsource their technological requirement for cyber security to third party cos"......did i ever mention outsource any home security or law making body to another company.......now in a country where govt allows 74% fdi in telecom sector which is of very sensitive kind to our security and 100 per cent private participation in defence industry with 26 per cent FDI in defence sector how come outsourcing cyber logging would make a dent into our economy and i only suggested outsourcing technological requirements like softwares, training govt personnels,and all others needs to put in place a proper mechanism to counterpart the problem because the problem is not just of cyber terrorism but of cyber abuse which is happening on a larger scale...... there could even be a law to cap the fdi for the companies participating in tender process ....and how come mobile verification became compulsory for opening e-mail account except the in.com case.... ....isnt the case of opening an account online through mobile can be replicated for the whole net world be it pornography site or commerce site this would filter out bogus acounts..... now the question on freedom of internet users...........stopping of abuse is not a breach of privacy but a meaningful need for human society to maintain law and discipline in the cyber world(a.k.a internet)..... it could be of lesser scale than the patriot act in u.s cos small pain in people's working could be compensated with higher security of their life....... read my word carefully this is wat i said:”can do right is to outsource their technological requirement for cyber security to third party cos”……did i ever mention outsource any home security or law making body to another company…….now in a country where govt allows 74% fdi in telecom sector which is of very sensitive kind to our security and 100 per cent private participation in defence industry with 26 per cent FDI in defence sector how come outsourcing cyber logging would make a dent into our economy and i only suggested outsourcing technological requirements like softwares, training govt personnels,and all others needs to put in place a proper mechanism to counterpart the problem because the problem is not just of cyber terrorism but of cyber abuse which is happening on a larger scale…… there could even be a law to cap the fdi for the companies participating in tender process
….and how come mobile verification became compulsory for opening e-mail account except the in.com case….
….isnt the case of opening an account online through mobile can be replicated for the whole net world be it pornography site or commerce site this would filter out bogus acounts…..
now the question on freedom of internet users………..stopping of abuse is not a breach of privacy but a meaningful need for human society to maintain law and discipline in the cyber world(a.k.a internet)…..
it could be of lesser scale than the patriot act in u.s cos small pain in people’s working could be compensated with higher security of their life…….

]]> By: Sakshi http://www.watblog.com/2008/07/31/watblogs-take-on-indias-outlook-towards-cyber-terrorism-and-how-to-impeach-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-9614 Sakshi Mon, 04 Aug 2008 06:04:38 +0000 http://www.watblog.com/2008/07/31/watblogs-take-on-indias-outlook-towards-cyber-terrorism-and-how-to-impeach-privacy/#comment-9614 @ Raghav: YOU DO NOT OUTSOURCE YOUR LAWS AND HOME SECURITY....!!! To supplement my answer I would simply say- That the kings in olden times outsourced their security needs to the brits...and then we were a slave nation... If you have been reading your newspapers, you would know that the whole opposition to the nuke deal was about letting go of our soveriegnity. There are somethings that cant be outsourced to any kind of third party. Next you would say that there is a backlog in the cases being heard by the judiciary, so we should outsource that too...!!! (You almost implied that only). Like, Ankur said, the whole cyber crime is being investigated by a private body called ASCL. But I still stick to my points which I made in my previous comment. And my dear, mobile verification is mandatory... its just that we still live in a democracy and in a chinese society... !!! @ Raghav:
YOU DO NOT OUTSOURCE YOUR LAWS AND HOME SECURITY….!!!
To supplement my answer I would simply say- That the kings in olden times outsourced their security needs to the brits…and then we were a slave nation…
If you have been reading your newspapers, you would know that the whole opposition to the nuke deal was about letting go of our soveriegnity.

There are somethings that cant be outsourced to any kind of third party. Next you would say that there is a backlog in the cases being heard by the judiciary, so we should outsource that too…!!! (You almost implied that only).

Like, Ankur said, the whole cyber crime is being investigated by a private body called ASCL. But I still stick to my points which I made in my previous comment. And my dear, mobile verification is mandatory… its just that we still live in a democracy and in a chinese society… !!!

]]> By: Elron http://www.watblog.com/2008/07/31/watblogs-take-on-indias-outlook-towards-cyber-terrorism-and-how-to-impeach-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-9612 Elron Mon, 04 Aug 2008 03:01:56 +0000 http://www.watblog.com/2008/07/31/watblogs-take-on-indias-outlook-towards-cyber-terrorism-and-how-to-impeach-privacy/#comment-9612 OMG - bye bye freedoms..bye bye privacy. Just wait and watch how copyright groups hijack government initiatives at tackling terror to their advantage. The game will change from a war on terror to a war on piracy. OMG – bye bye freedoms..bye bye privacy. Just wait and watch how copyright groups hijack government initiatives at tackling terror to their advantage. The game will change from a war on terror to a war on piracy.

]]> By: raghav soni http://www.watblog.com/2008/07/31/watblogs-take-on-indias-outlook-towards-cyber-terrorism-and-how-to-impeach-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-9607 raghav soni Sun, 03 Aug 2008 19:21:58 +0000 http://www.watblog.com/2008/07/31/watblogs-take-on-indias-outlook-towards-cyber-terrorism-and-how-to-impeach-privacy/#comment-9607 this all discussion is about terrorist using cyber cafe as a gateway as i earler said they r smarter......doesn't every1 know that the threat-mail in recent blast were traced to a wifi connection which again proves what i said earlier cyber laws will not help prevent terrorism what we really need is good home security....terrorist will not use means which we want them to use.....so forcing strict cyber cafe laws will not help any cause......... @sakshi there is a solution for everything but the only way our govt in india can do right is to outsource their technological requirement for cyber security to third party cos indian govt implemets wonderful schemes with many flaws....perfect example would be mid-day meal scheme which was a nice idea to make poor kids attend schools but what finally happen according to govt information 1\3rd of resources is wasted in mid-day meal scheme and it runs in crores so couldn't an outsource to a third party had improved the quality of food coupled with more no. of studrnt deriving benefit from it.......i personally feel that cyber law would be the next big opportunity in tech business but not now after many years....cos with increase in cyber crime not just cyber terror but all sort of crimes would make every govt in the world think about policing the netizens population just like they control citizens.... the perfect solution will be to make mobile verification mandatory for e-mail accounts.....we can afford to do it cos there are 25crores+ mobile in india and only 5 crores internet surfers.....so every surfer must be having a mobile......... this would solve the bigger problem which is of abuse on internet cos people would be making less fake accounts and would mind their behaviour as rgey know that there mobile numbers are with e-mail provides........this was even implemented by in.com...even this system can be bypassed with fake mobile accounts but how many people would buy a new sim card for new e-mail account for abuse purposes......this system if implemented would cos evry country to take notice of it and copy it .......but as i said indian govt just wants to follow the footsteps of us counterparts these kind of solutions r hard to expect with it this would keep a check on netizens activity and this was just a single piece of what we can do effectively cos there are many slutions to solve crimes this all discussion is about terrorist using cyber cafe as a gateway as i earler said they r smarter……doesn’t every1 know that the threat-mail in recent blast were traced to a wifi connection which again proves what i said earlier cyber laws will not help prevent terrorism what we really need is good home security….terrorist will not use means which we want them to use…..so forcing strict cyber cafe laws will not help any cause………
@sakshi there is a solution for everything but the only way our govt in india can do right is to outsource their technological requirement for cyber security to third party cos indian govt implemets wonderful schemes with many flaws….perfect example would be mid-day meal scheme which was a nice idea to make poor kids attend schools but what finally happen according to govt information 1\3rd of resources is wasted in mid-day meal scheme and it runs in crores so couldn’t an outsource to a third party had improved the quality of food coupled with more no. of studrnt deriving benefit from it…….i personally feel that cyber law would be the next big opportunity in tech business but not now after many years….cos with increase in cyber crime not just cyber terror but all sort of crimes would make every govt in the world think about policing the netizens population just like they control citizens….
the perfect solution will be to make mobile verification mandatory for e-mail accounts…..we can afford to do it cos there are 25crores+ mobile in india and only 5 crores internet surfers…..so every surfer must be having a mobile………
this would solve the bigger problem which is of abuse on internet cos people would be making less fake accounts and would mind their behaviour as rgey know that there mobile numbers are with e-mail provides……..this was even implemented by in.com…even this system can be bypassed with fake mobile accounts but how many people would buy a new sim card for new e-mail account for abuse purposes……this system if implemented would cos evry country to take notice of it and copy it …….but as i said indian govt just wants to follow the footsteps of us counterparts these kind of solutions r hard to expect with it this would keep a check on netizens activity and this was just a single piece of what we can do effectively cos there are many slutions to solve crimes

]]> By: Sakshi http://www.watblog.com/2008/07/31/watblogs-take-on-indias-outlook-towards-cyber-terrorism-and-how-to-impeach-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-9602 Sakshi Sun, 03 Aug 2008 17:49:14 +0000 http://www.watblog.com/2008/07/31/watblogs-take-on-indias-outlook-towards-cyber-terrorism-and-how-to-impeach-privacy/#comment-9602 Impressive dicussion...!!! @Ankur- I too am an ex student of ASCL. And I would like to say... that even though ASCL is actively involved in the tracing etc, it is very important to to educate our policemen and intelligence feild officers in the new technological advanced tactics of warfare. @ Raghav- You know, you are sounding as if you want that the government should fail in all its attempt to track the criminals. Do you have a better solution, for the problem...??? What really is needed is some strong policies that give a little autonomous status to the intellegence...!!! A separate cell and group of dedicated people for fighting this henious crime. Because the CBI is messing up big time... and they are more interested in making chargesheets against the dammed politicians...!!! More stringent laws... and amendment of the IT Act along with the IPC and the CrPc. A special bench in the Supreme court just to try these cases... and no intervention of any God Damn NGO and Human right activists... (Afzal should be shot in public) And I say this again... Its us who give the terrorists the room to operate... the day we turn against this all at once instead of being a mob for our politicians.. no one would dare put us under threat...!!! Impressive dicussion…!!!
@Ankur-
I too am an ex student of ASCL. And I would like to say… that even though ASCL is actively involved in the tracing etc, it is very important to to educate our policemen and intelligence feild officers in the new technological advanced tactics of warfare.

@ Raghav-
You know, you are sounding as if you want that the government should fail in all its attempt to track the criminals. Do you have a better solution, for the problem…???

What really is needed is some strong policies that give a little autonomous status to the intellegence…!!! A separate cell and group of dedicated people for fighting this henious crime. Because the CBI is messing up big time… and they are more interested in making chargesheets against the dammed politicians…!!!
More stringent laws… and amendment of the IT Act along with the IPC and the CrPc. A special bench in the Supreme court just to try these cases… and no intervention of any God Damn NGO and Human right activists… (Afzal should be shot in public)

And I say this again… Its us who give the terrorists the room to operate… the day we turn against this all at once instead of being a mob for our politicians.. no one would dare put us under threat…!!!

]]> By: raghav soni http://www.watblog.com/2008/07/31/watblogs-take-on-indias-outlook-towards-cyber-terrorism-and-how-to-impeach-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-9600 raghav soni Sun, 03 Aug 2008 11:56:17 +0000 http://www.watblog.com/2008/07/31/watblogs-take-on-indias-outlook-towards-cyber-terrorism-and-how-to-impeach-privacy/#comment-9600 govt can enforce any measures to protect cyber crime of all sorts under public scrutiny but people will find a way to beat the system specially here cos even after caught it would be very hard to prove the charges....and i mean it for all crimes.........terrorist are much more mindful than us so never ever underestimate them...........instead of focussing on nagging people who send e-mails they should better be good in home security because in a country where people find it tough to fight terror govt running around cyber crime is just an excuse nothing else....wake up call for every one govt can enforce any measures to protect cyber crime of all sorts under public scrutiny but people will find a way to beat the system specially here cos even after caught it would be very hard to prove the charges….and i mean it for all crimes………terrorist are much more mindful than us so never ever underestimate them………..instead of focussing on nagging people who send e-mails they should better be good in home security because in a country where people find it tough to fight terror govt running around cyber crime is just an excuse nothing else….wake up call for every one

]]> By: Annkur P Agarwal http://www.watblog.com/2008/07/31/watblogs-take-on-indias-outlook-towards-cyber-terrorism-and-how-to-impeach-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-9599 Annkur P Agarwal Sun, 03 Aug 2008 11:34:23 +0000 http://www.watblog.com/2008/07/31/watblogs-take-on-indias-outlook-towards-cyber-terrorism-and-how-to-impeach-privacy/#comment-9599 Bhai, 1. The SIM card if used by the terrorist would give exact details to the police as to which area and route they were traveling to and from. 2. The options given by me above for Cyber Cafe norms. (comment 1) 3. I am not saying what they will use. But what should be the security norms, that won't affect the common man. And would not open up further means of corruption and bribery. Bhai,

1. The SIM card if used by the terrorist would give exact details to the police as to which area and route they were traveling to and from.

2. The options given by me above for Cyber Cafe norms. (comment 1)

3. I am not saying what they will use. But what should be the security norms, that won’t affect the common man. And would not open up further means of corruption and bribery.

]]> By: raghav soni http://www.watblog.com/2008/07/31/watblogs-take-on-indias-outlook-towards-cyber-terrorism-and-how-to-impeach-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-9597 raghav soni Sun, 03 Aug 2008 11:17:44 +0000 http://www.watblog.com/2008/07/31/watblogs-take-on-indias-outlook-towards-cyber-terrorism-and-how-to-impeach-privacy/#comment-9597 what would u do after tracing a cell phone when all the addresses provided during registrations are forged.......and the sim card ends up in gutter......its not the name but the work that matters........... what would u do after tracing a cell phone when all the addresses provided during registrations are forged…….and the sim card ends up in gutter……its not the name but the work that matters………..

]]> By: raghav soni http://www.watblog.com/2008/07/31/watblogs-take-on-indias-outlook-towards-cyber-terrorism-and-how-to-impeach-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-9596 raghav soni Sun, 03 Aug 2008 11:17:02 +0000 http://www.watblog.com/2008/07/31/watblogs-take-on-indias-outlook-towards-cyber-terrorism-and-how-to-impeach-privacy/#comment-9596 what would u do after tracing a cell phone when all the addresses provided during registrations are forged.......and the sim card ends up in gutter...... what would u do after tracing a cell phone when all the addresses provided during registrations are forged…….and the sim card ends up in gutter……

]]> By: Annkur P Agarwal http://www.watblog.com/2008/07/31/watblogs-take-on-indias-outlook-towards-cyber-terrorism-and-how-to-impeach-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-9595 Annkur P Agarwal Sun, 03 Aug 2008 11:04:55 +0000 http://www.watblog.com/2008/07/31/watblogs-take-on-indias-outlook-towards-cyber-terrorism-and-how-to-impeach-privacy/#comment-9595 I feel tracing a cell phone is easier than a Cyber Cafe! Cell phone pin points the location of the person, while Cyber Cafe can only signify the place where the info was sent from. And the name is Annkur! I feel tracing a cell phone is easier than a Cyber Cafe! Cell phone pin points the location of the person, while Cyber Cafe can only signify the place where the info was sent from.

And the name is Annkur!

]]> By: raghav soni http://www.watblog.com/2008/07/31/watblogs-take-on-indias-outlook-towards-cyber-terrorism-and-how-to-impeach-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-9586 raghav soni Sat, 02 Aug 2008 20:40:14 +0000 http://www.watblog.com/2008/07/31/watblogs-take-on-indias-outlook-towards-cyber-terrorism-and-how-to-impeach-privacy/#comment-9586 @abkur in a country where one can get forged ration cards sim cards can be taken too........wake up dude............what u think terrorist use cybercafe to transmit their planning.....u must be kidding me.........when cell phone can be used in jails and not traced ....same is the case with terrorist 222222........... id cards are already asked by many white label cybercafe's but it is of no use....should i xplain it in detail..... 3...... i know even u.s site gets hacked but in india service is more rampant and it was also showcased in economictimes that govt do not get pro level hackers due to low payout......... ......... :) @abkur
in a country where one can get forged ration cards sim cards can be taken too……..wake up dude…………what u think terrorist use cybercafe to transmit their planning…..u must be kidding me………when cell phone can be used in jails and not traced ….same is the case with terrorist

222222………..

id cards are already asked by many white label cybercafe’s but it is of no use….should i xplain it in detail…..
3……
i know even u.s site gets hacked but in india service is more rampant and it was also showcased in economictimes that govt do not get pro level hackers due to low payout………
……… :)

]]> By: Annkur P Agarwal http://www.watblog.com/2008/07/31/watblogs-take-on-indias-outlook-towards-cyber-terrorism-and-how-to-impeach-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-9585 Annkur P Agarwal Sat, 02 Aug 2008 20:27:34 +0000 http://www.watblog.com/2008/07/31/watblogs-take-on-indias-outlook-towards-cyber-terrorism-and-how-to-impeach-privacy/#comment-9585 "they can use cell phones to transmit the data"?? GPRS? call? ya SMS? - Using a cyber cafe is safer than a Cell Phone. "as far as registration in cybercafe is concerned" - Yeah thats true, proper registration would be difficult. But then I guess we aren't banning internet for kids under 18. So School or College Ids would work. "anti hacking measures for govt servers………." - Precaution can be taken, but its a fact that No System in this world is 100% secure. Neither can it be, off course unless you shut it down, bury it in the ground and put an axe over it J “they can use cell phones to transmit the data”??

GPRS? call? ya SMS? – Using a cyber cafe is safer than a Cell Phone.

“as far as registration in cybercafe is concerned” – Yeah thats true, proper registration would be difficult. But then I guess we aren’t banning internet for kids under 18. So School or College Ids would work.

“anti hacking measures for govt servers……….” – Precaution can be taken, but its a fact that No System in this world is 100% secure. Neither can it be, off course unless you shut it down, bury it in the ground and put an axe over it J

]]> By: raghav soni http://www.watblog.com/2008/07/31/watblogs-take-on-indias-outlook-towards-cyber-terrorism-and-how-to-impeach-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-9584 raghav soni Sat, 02 Aug 2008 19:57:40 +0000 http://www.watblog.com/2008/07/31/watblogs-take-on-indias-outlook-towards-cyber-terrorism-and-how-to-impeach-privacy/#comment-9584 very nice to see people lamming about cyber terrorism :- 1111....... terrorsists are smarter than u fellow bloggers ........cos they can use cell phones to transmit the data and how would govt keep track of 25 crore subscribers...and not to forget that the e-mails which govt traces are only for information sent to tv channels cos terrorist talk in crypted language with their fellow members...... 2222...... as far as registration in cybercafe is concerned it would wipe off many cybercafe goers cos most of them are in the age of 13-17....so no documents and there parents wont be giving their documents for child's play/// bad news for companies like ideacts in this country i do not expect cyber terrorism to be countered (as u guys called it)any time soon what i only wish is that govt atleast govt sites are not compromised cos that jeopardies countries reputation and makes information available to hacker.........so guys forget cyber terrorism and focus on anti hacking measures for govt servers.......... very nice to see people lamming about cyber terrorism :-

1111…….

terrorsists are smarter than u fellow bloggers ……..cos they can use cell phones to transmit the data and how would govt keep track of 25 crore subscribers…and not to forget that the e-mails which govt traces are only for information sent to tv channels cos terrorist talk in crypted language with their fellow members……

2222……

as far as registration in cybercafe is concerned it would wipe off many cybercafe goers cos most of them are in the age of 13-17….so no documents and there parents wont be giving their documents for child’s play///
bad news for companies like ideacts

in this country i do not expect cyber terrorism to be countered (as u guys called it)any time soon what i only wish is that govt atleast govt sites are not compromised cos that jeopardies countries reputation and makes information available to hacker………so guys forget cyber terrorism and focus on anti hacking measures for govt servers……….

]]> By: Kal-el http://www.watblog.com/2008/07/31/watblogs-take-on-indias-outlook-towards-cyber-terrorism-and-how-to-impeach-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-9572 Kal-el Sat, 02 Aug 2008 01:49:47 +0000 http://www.watblog.com/2008/07/31/watblogs-take-on-indias-outlook-towards-cyber-terrorism-and-how-to-impeach-privacy/#comment-9572 Come on.... I Agree with shitij. Any cyberterrorist dumb enough to even consider working from a CYBER CAFE Is asking to be caught. In this day and age of WIFI networks with horrendously insecure encryption and Wide open Free for all networks i don't think anonymous and malignant connectivity is awesome. Consider this what is some one uses a Fake ID(God knows how easy that is to get in india). Use EDGE or 3G or Any other cellular data cards to roam around with a laptop and attack on the move and discard when its done. Hehehehehe all the so called "Intelligence" agencies will have is a pattern of cell grids lighting up showing where he has been. Come on…. I Agree with shitij. Any cyberterrorist dumb enough to even consider working from a CYBER CAFE Is asking to be caught. In this day and age of WIFI networks with horrendously insecure encryption and Wide open Free for all networks i don’t think anonymous and malignant connectivity is awesome. Consider this what is some one uses a Fake ID(God knows how easy that is to get in india). Use EDGE or 3G or Any other cellular data cards to roam around with a laptop and attack on the move and discard when its done. Hehehehehe all the so called “Intelligence” agencies will have is a pattern of cell grids lighting up showing where he has been.

]]> By: Shitij http://www.watblog.com/2008/07/31/watblogs-take-on-indias-outlook-towards-cyber-terrorism-and-how-to-impeach-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-9553 Shitij Fri, 01 Aug 2008 06:35:29 +0000 http://www.watblog.com/2008/07/31/watblogs-take-on-indias-outlook-towards-cyber-terrorism-and-how-to-impeach-privacy/#comment-9553 Allow me to highlight a more important perspective in the discussion (it was given a mere 2 line space in the article, but i think it deserves more merit than that). Causing terror fundamentally would mean thinking beyond and thinking forward...be it 9/11, be it the domestic bombings, the terrorists have used 'forward thinking' to their best advantage. They used cyber cafes when we thought they wouldnt, now they are using the path which we 'think' they wouldnt! Even in the recent case of Ahmedabad bombing it was proved right...I think it will be foolhardy for any terrorist to go to cybercafe and operate from there, because as you all rightly said, there is a formidable fear of being traced. So they are using the 'wi-fis'. With the devices available dime a dozen, it becomes a cake walk for the miscreants to access the invisible internet gateways all around us and use it to their advantage. The problem and the solution therefore for us is :- Educating the citizens on the importance of locking their wi-fis and not keeping it an open platform. Where I work, if I were to step out and search for wi-fis through my phone, I can trace atleast 10 open /free gateways. Also the agencies have to really think futuristically. Cyber Cafe tracking to my mind is actually and incidentally futile now, the terrorists have moved forward with times...its about time that we do the same... Allow me to highlight a more important perspective in the discussion (it was given a mere 2 line space in the article, but i think it deserves more merit than that).

Causing terror fundamentally would mean thinking beyond and thinking forward…be it 9/11, be it the domestic bombings, the terrorists have used ‘forward thinking’ to their best advantage. They used cyber cafes when we thought they wouldnt, now they are using the path which we ‘think’ they wouldnt!

Even in the recent case of Ahmedabad bombing it was proved right…I think it will be foolhardy for any terrorist to go to cybercafe and operate from there, because as you all rightly said, there is a formidable fear of being traced. So they are using the ‘wi-fis’. With the devices available dime a dozen, it becomes a cake walk for the miscreants to access the invisible internet gateways all around us and use it to their advantage. The problem and the solution therefore for us is :-

Educating the citizens on the importance of locking their wi-fis and not keeping it an open platform. Where I work, if I were to step out and search for wi-fis through my phone, I can trace atleast 10 open /free gateways.

Also the agencies have to really think futuristically. Cyber Cafe tracking to my mind is actually and incidentally futile now, the terrorists have moved forward with times…its about time that we do the same…

]]> By: shalini http://www.watblog.com/2008/07/31/watblogs-take-on-indias-outlook-towards-cyber-terrorism-and-how-to-impeach-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-9548 shalini Fri, 01 Aug 2008 05:14:10 +0000 http://www.watblog.com/2008/07/31/watblogs-take-on-indias-outlook-towards-cyber-terrorism-and-how-to-impeach-privacy/#comment-9548 What great solutions. Another one i suggest is immeasurable but worked like magic for Nazis. Alter citizens, shop owners can inform the police of any suspicion. What great solutions. Another one i suggest is immeasurable but worked like magic for Nazis. Alter citizens, shop owners can inform the police of any suspicion.

]]> By: Annkur P Agarwal http://www.watblog.com/2008/07/31/watblogs-take-on-indias-outlook-towards-cyber-terrorism-and-how-to-impeach-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-9537 Annkur P Agarwal Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:19:09 +0000 http://www.watblog.com/2008/07/31/watblogs-take-on-indias-outlook-towards-cyber-terrorism-and-how-to-impeach-privacy/#comment-9537 Just a little incomplete sentence in my earlier comment on line 9 & 10 "They have to only ensure that which person was logged in with that IP address ... is TRACEABLE (Logged / Verified)" Just a little incomplete sentence in my earlier comment on line 9 & 10

“They have to only ensure that which person was logged in with that IP address … is TRACEABLE (Logged / Verified)”

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