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		<title>By: Rajiv Dingra</title>
		<link>http://www.watblog.com/2008/06/30/did-twitter-founders-run-away-with-all-the-funding-money/comment-page-1/#comment-8724</link>
		<dc:creator>Rajiv Dingra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Peter Parker</title>
		<link>http://www.watblog.com/2008/06/30/did-twitter-founders-run-away-with-all-the-funding-money/comment-page-1/#comment-8712</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 07:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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Dave Winer, father of RSS says “Twitter, as it was conceived, was never meant to live.”

“It’s very possible with better engineering its architecture might have gone on for a few more years, but eventually it would have hit this wall, where there were too many people posting too many twits to too many followers. The scale of the system as conceived rises exponentially.”

So is the end of Twitter getting near? I hope not. Twitter I hope that you are listening and you better start taking things more seriously.
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Here&#039;s my two cents.

For instance there are about 100m users of yahoo messenger and usually 2-3 of them talk at a time that means scalability of 300m conversations. On the other hand with 100m twitter users who usually send messages to 100-10,000 other users the scalability required is 10,000m to 10^6m I have never known any current architecture based on webservers to handle such a scale. So according to me Twitter was never meant to live. It is like a concept car that will never see production. Users of twitter don&#039;t understand this and they don&#039;t care. 
They don&#039;t know whats happening when the website is down. The sad part is that the best analysts claim that Twitter is a billion dollar company in one year of operations. There is an old saying before the days of when people understood permutation combinations. One peasant asked a king to give him rice equal to the total amount gotten by placing double the number of rice grains on a chess square than the previous square, starting with one rice grain. There are 8x8=64 squares. We seriously need to visit grade 7 mathematics. 

I know of only one News/Messaging system that supports around 1 billion users sending messages to all 1 billion users each. Thats a scalability of 10^12m. It is not Web based but rather on a massively scalable serverless P2P architecture based. The team is soft spoken and when I last talked to them I was told that they don&#039;t care about money or hype or fame but rather for just the passion of next generation global systems that will stand the test of worldwide use. Its called Mermaid News &lt;a href=&quot;http://mermaid.metaaso.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Mermaid &lt;/a&gt;

They have other softwares too but this post is about Twitter and Messaging. Once everyone comprehends basic mathematics that goes behind scalable algorithms they would go past the flashy screen and hype to actually want a system they can trust. To the analysts I would say it is easy to create a business plan, create a hype and raise $20m funding it is far more difficult to create something of use.</description>
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Dave Winer, father of RSS says “Twitter, as it was conceived, was never meant to live.”</p>
<p>“It’s very possible with better engineering its architecture might have gone on for a few more years, but eventually it would have hit this wall, where there were too many people posting too many twits to too many followers. The scale of the system as conceived rises exponentially.”</p>
<p>So is the end of Twitter getting near? I hope not. Twitter I hope that you are listening and you better start taking things more seriously.<br />
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<p>Here&#8217;s my two cents.</p>
<p>For instance there are about 100m users of yahoo messenger and usually 2-3 of them talk at a time that means scalability of 300m conversations. On the other hand with 100m twitter users who usually send messages to 100-10,000 other users the scalability required is 10,000m to 10^6m I have never known any current architecture based on webservers to handle such a scale. So according to me Twitter was never meant to live. It is like a concept car that will never see production. Users of twitter don&#8217;t understand this and they don&#8217;t care.<br />
They don&#8217;t know whats happening when the website is down. The sad part is that the best analysts claim that Twitter is a billion dollar company in one year of operations. There is an old saying before the days of when people understood permutation combinations. One peasant asked a king to give him rice equal to the total amount gotten by placing double the number of rice grains on a chess square than the previous square, starting with one rice grain. There are 8&#215;8=64 squares. We seriously need to visit grade 7 mathematics. </p>
<p>I know of only one News/Messaging system that supports around 1 billion users sending messages to all 1 billion users each. Thats a scalability of 10^12m. It is not Web based but rather on a massively scalable serverless P2P architecture based. The team is soft spoken and when I last talked to them I was told that they don&#8217;t care about money or hype or fame but rather for just the passion of next generation global systems that will stand the test of worldwide use. Its called Mermaid News <a href="http://mermaid.metaaso.com" rel="nofollow"> Mermaid </a></p>
<p>They have other softwares too but this post is about Twitter and Messaging. Once everyone comprehends basic mathematics that goes behind scalable algorithms they would go past the flashy screen and hype to actually want a system they can trust. To the analysts I would say it is easy to create a business plan, create a hype and raise $20m funding it is far more difficult to create something of use.</p>
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		<title>By: Rushabh Choksi</title>
		<link>http://www.watblog.com/2008/06/30/did-twitter-founders-run-away-with-all-the-funding-money/comment-page-1/#comment-8711</link>
		<dc:creator>Rushabh Choksi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 07:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No worries :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No worries <img src='http://www.watblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: RajG</title>
		<link>http://www.watblog.com/2008/06/30/did-twitter-founders-run-away-with-all-the-funding-money/comment-page-1/#comment-8710</link>
		<dc:creator>RajG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 07:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought I had read something similar... apologies for the same...</description>
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		<title>By: Rushabh Choksi</title>
		<link>http://www.watblog.com/2008/06/30/did-twitter-founders-run-away-with-all-the-funding-money/comment-page-1/#comment-8646</link>
		<dc:creator>Rushabh Choksi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ RajG - Do excuse me this time. Mistakes do happen..especially when u one is in a bit hurry...lol. Regarding the borrowing thing I can assure u that i have linked where it was needed.
PS. Nothing has been borrowed from Silicon Alley and Valleyway :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ RajG &#8211; Do excuse me this time. Mistakes do happen..especially when u one is in a bit hurry&#8230;lol. Regarding the borrowing thing I can assure u that i have linked where it was needed.<br />
PS. Nothing has been borrowed from Silicon Alley and Valleyway <img src='http://www.watblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: RajG</title>
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		<dc:creator>RajG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Did Twitter Founders Ran Away With All The Funding Money?&lt;/b&gt;

If you want readers to take your posts seriously.. two things:
1)English.. English... should be &quot;Run Away&quot; not &quot;Ran Away&quot;
2) This post has borrowed generously from Silicon Alley and Valleyway... At least acknowledge that...</description>
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<p>If you want readers to take your posts seriously.. two things:<br />
1)English.. English&#8230; should be &#8220;Run Away&#8221; not &#8220;Ran Away&#8221;<br />
2) This post has borrowed generously from Silicon Alley and Valleyway&#8230; At least acknowledge that&#8230;</p>
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