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	<title>Comments on: Juxt Consult Report Out – The Confusion with User Stats Continues; Internet India is Growing at a Pathetic Pace even Though Stats May Glorify</title>
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		<title>By: raghav soni</title>
		<link>http://www.watblog.com/2008/05/20/juxt-consult-report-out-%e2%80%93-the-confusion-with-user-stats-continues-internet-india-is-growing-at-a-pathetic-pace-even-though-stats-may-glorify/comment-page-1/#comment-5754</link>
		<dc:creator>raghav soni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 12:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>government would even do well for penetration of internet if it could scrap service tax on it .......nd the broadband will c da light of da day when reliance starts it services nationally .....i have been waiting 4 three years for their service as they laid there broadband cables back then....there acquisition of flag telecom would play the role.....gonna c da same competition as mobile hopefully.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>government would even do well for penetration of internet if it could scrap service tax on it &#8230;&#8230;.nd the broadband will c da light of da day when reliance starts it services nationally &#8230;..i have been waiting 4 three years for their service as they laid there broadband cables back then&#8230;.there acquisition of flag telecom would play the role&#8230;..gonna c da same competition as mobile hopefully&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Harshil Karia</title>
		<link>http://www.watblog.com/2008/05/20/juxt-consult-report-out-%e2%80%93-the-confusion-with-user-stats-continues-internet-india-is-growing-at-a-pathetic-pace-even-though-stats-may-glorify/comment-page-1/#comment-5723</link>
		<dc:creator>Harshil Karia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 08:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>some extremely valid points there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some extremely valid points there!</p>
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		<title>By: raghav soni</title>
		<link>http://www.watblog.com/2008/05/20/juxt-consult-report-out-%e2%80%93-the-confusion-with-user-stats-continues-internet-india-is-growing-at-a-pathetic-pace-even-though-stats-may-glorify/comment-page-1/#comment-5638</link>
		<dc:creator>raghav soni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 13:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if there is less growth in internet users in india then english needs to be blamed......why bcos chinas internet users are rising cos there r millions of chinese sites in chinese language can u count ten site immediately available in hindi....cos i cud count only 2.....thats the main problem as we know not many people speak english in india......the problem could be solved by two ways making more sites in hindi,,,nd primarily  launching vernaculars languages keyboards,,,plus a 1 click version of windows which turns fonts in hindi ......cos hindi translation on google pages or other sites sucks.....nd the real problem in india is the no. of languages spoken unlike china which have mandarin as primary language......so hindi  may not even solve the problem as south indians cant understand it properly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if there is less growth in internet users in india then english needs to be blamed&#8230;&#8230;why bcos chinas internet users are rising cos there r millions of chinese sites in chinese language can u count ten site immediately available in hindi&#8230;.cos i cud count only 2&#8230;..thats the main problem as we know not many people speak english in india&#8230;&#8230;the problem could be solved by two ways making more sites in hindi,,,nd primarily  launching vernaculars languages keyboards,,,plus a 1 click version of windows which turns fonts in hindi &#8230;&#8230;cos hindi translation on google pages or other sites sucks&#8230;..nd the real problem in india is the no. of languages spoken unlike china which have mandarin as primary language&#8230;&#8230;so hindi  may not even solve the problem as south indians cant understand it properly</p>
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		<title>By: Harshil Karia</title>
		<link>http://www.watblog.com/2008/05/20/juxt-consult-report-out-%e2%80%93-the-confusion-with-user-stats-continues-internet-india-is-growing-at-a-pathetic-pace-even-though-stats-may-glorify/comment-page-1/#comment-5612</link>
		<dc:creator>Harshil Karia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 08:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Mrutyunjay - the changes have been corrected. There were 2 stats that we misrepresented on the post - one on the online survey with 15, 000 people and secondly -  Social networking not being a part of that 81% time spent for users. The second one is important for all of us in social media so thanks for pointing that out. Appreciate your concerns - just that if &quot;bloggers&quot; and &quot;journalists&quot; matter to you then be proactive and communicate with them. Send out the right figures and reports. And if this is peak time for people visiting your site then make sure its UP! I appreciate the study - its great from a consumer behaviour perspective. I am sorry if the study was gravely misrepresented (i doubt it was because most of the post looks at stuff not quoted in the ET article) - i have made the necessary concerns. 
@Anon - i quite like this being called a &#039;ranting&#039; - it has an emotional element attached :) - atleast someone cares passionately about these things! Thats how i like doing it anyway. Do you not like reading opinions? if you do - then how do you like them structured? I&#039;d appreciate your feedback.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Mrutyunjay &#8211; the changes have been corrected. There were 2 stats that we misrepresented on the post &#8211; one on the online survey with 15, 000 people and secondly &#8211;  Social networking not being a part of that 81% time spent for users. The second one is important for all of us in social media so thanks for pointing that out. Appreciate your concerns &#8211; just that if &#8220;bloggers&#8221; and &#8220;journalists&#8221; matter to you then be proactive and communicate with them. Send out the right figures and reports. And if this is peak time for people visiting your site then make sure its UP! I appreciate the study &#8211; its great from a consumer behaviour perspective. I am sorry if the study was gravely misrepresented (i doubt it was because most of the post looks at stuff not quoted in the ET article) &#8211; i have made the necessary concerns.<br />
@Anon &#8211; i quite like this being called a &#8216;ranting&#8217; &#8211; it has an emotional element attached <img src='http://www.watblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  &#8211; atleast someone cares passionately about these things! Thats how i like doing it anyway. Do you not like reading opinions? if you do &#8211; then how do you like them structured? I&#8217;d appreciate your feedback.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://www.watblog.com/2008/05/20/juxt-consult-report-out-%e2%80%93-the-confusion-with-user-stats-continues-internet-india-is-growing-at-a-pathetic-pace-even-though-stats-may-glorify/comment-page-1/#comment-5609</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 08:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harshil,
Go take a walk buddy. Another one of your immature rantings!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harshil,<br />
Go take a walk buddy. Another one of your immature rantings!</p>
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		<title>By: Harshil Karia</title>
		<link>http://www.watblog.com/2008/05/20/juxt-consult-report-out-%e2%80%93-the-confusion-with-user-stats-continues-internet-india-is-growing-at-a-pathetic-pace-even-though-stats-may-glorify/comment-page-1/#comment-5608</link>
		<dc:creator>Harshil Karia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 08:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Mrutyunjay - i actually wanted to check the figures from the Juxt Consult site this morning but the site was down as a result of which i had to rely on the ET figures - please put us on your mailing list and send out the releases to us so that we need not necessarily rely on external sources and make the mistake - i&#039;ll rectify the following soon. Thanks for taking time out to comment. some of the things you listed are not on the blog but whatever changes need to be made - il look at them. The site is working fine now - just checked. But this morning i tried a couple of times and got an error.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mrutyunjay &#8211; i actually wanted to check the figures from the Juxt Consult site this morning but the site was down as a result of which i had to rely on the ET figures &#8211; please put us on your mailing list and send out the releases to us so that we need not necessarily rely on external sources and make the mistake &#8211; i&#8217;ll rectify the following soon. Thanks for taking time out to comment. some of the things you listed are not on the blog but whatever changes need to be made &#8211; il look at them. The site is working fine now &#8211; just checked. But this morning i tried a couple of times and got an error.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrutyunjay</title>
		<link>http://www.watblog.com/2008/05/20/juxt-consult-report-out-%e2%80%93-the-confusion-with-user-stats-continues-internet-india-is-growing-at-a-pathetic-pace-even-though-stats-may-glorify/comment-page-1/#comment-5607</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrutyunjay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 08:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Numbers don&#039;t lie, people lie&quot;.

In this fast world even &quot;journalists&quot;/ &quot;bloggers&quot; in a hurry no more to talk to the &quot;analyst&quot; and check once whether the interpretations are correct. If in print a mistake happens no one can correct it, but then on the net before putting something you should be completely confident and check with the source. That&#039;s basic of journalism, I guess. Harshil could have spoke to us before putting something up.

Check the corrections (also sent to ET):
1. “an offline survey of over 12,500 households across 40 cities and 160 villages countrywide to gauge the online behaviour of Indians”. 

Correct nos. - an offline survey of over 12,500 Urban households across 40 cities and 4,000 Rural Households in 160 villages to estimate &amp; profile Internet users and a separate online survey of over 15,000 sample countrywide to gauge the online behaviour of Indians.

2. “What’s more, over 70% internet users prefer to access the net in Indian languages, with English users at just 28%, down from 41% in 2007.”

The correct data and interpretation – Language net access stands at 34% and not 70%. 70% is the figure of net users who prefer to ‘read’ in Indian languages per se.

3. “Internet penetration (as % of population) has crossed double-digit mark in urban India at 12%, up 3% from 9% last year, and rural penetration stands at 4.5%”. Correct data – at 9 million rural penetration comes out to be around 1.2% and not 4.5%.

4. “Internet chatting and blogs are significant for 81% of the users”. 

Correct data – All social media platforms put together (chatting, social networking, picture sharing, video sharing, online communities and blogging) form 81% and not just chatting and blogging.

5. “and a good 80% of regular online Indians are now buying through the net”. 

Correct data -  a good 80% regular net users now shop online (which is search or buy) and not buy online. Only 25% of regular internet users have actively bought in last 6 months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Numbers don&#8217;t lie, people lie&#8221;.</p>
<p>In this fast world even &#8220;journalists&#8221;/ &#8220;bloggers&#8221; in a hurry no more to talk to the &#8220;analyst&#8221; and check once whether the interpretations are correct. If in print a mistake happens no one can correct it, but then on the net before putting something you should be completely confident and check with the source. That&#8217;s basic of journalism, I guess. Harshil could have spoke to us before putting something up.</p>
<p>Check the corrections (also sent to ET):<br />
1. “an offline survey of over 12,500 households across 40 cities and 160 villages countrywide to gauge the online behaviour of Indians”. </p>
<p>Correct nos. &#8211; an offline survey of over 12,500 Urban households across 40 cities and 4,000 Rural Households in 160 villages to estimate &amp; profile Internet users and a separate online survey of over 15,000 sample countrywide to gauge the online behaviour of Indians.</p>
<p>2. “What’s more, over 70% internet users prefer to access the net in Indian languages, with English users at just 28%, down from 41% in 2007.”</p>
<p>The correct data and interpretation – Language net access stands at 34% and not 70%. 70% is the figure of net users who prefer to ‘read’ in Indian languages per se.</p>
<p>3. “Internet penetration (as % of population) has crossed double-digit mark in urban India at 12%, up 3% from 9% last year, and rural penetration stands at 4.5%”. Correct data – at 9 million rural penetration comes out to be around 1.2% and not 4.5%.</p>
<p>4. “Internet chatting and blogs are significant for 81% of the users”. </p>
<p>Correct data – All social media platforms put together (chatting, social networking, picture sharing, video sharing, online communities and blogging) form 81% and not just chatting and blogging.</p>
<p>5. “and a good 80% of regular online Indians are now buying through the net”. </p>
<p>Correct data &#8211;  a good 80% regular net users now shop online (which is search or buy) and not buy online. Only 25% of regular internet users have actively bought in last 6 months.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.watblog.com/2008/05/20/juxt-consult-report-out-%e2%80%93-the-confusion-with-user-stats-continues-internet-india-is-growing-at-a-pathetic-pace-even-though-stats-may-glorify/comment-page-1/#comment-5606</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 07:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as the broadband prices comes down drastically there is not going to be great penetration of internet in India</description>
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		<title>By: Sunil</title>
		<link>http://www.watblog.com/2008/05/20/juxt-consult-report-out-%e2%80%93-the-confusion-with-user-stats-continues-internet-india-is-growing-at-a-pathetic-pace-even-though-stats-may-glorify/comment-page-1/#comment-5595</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 06:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JuxtConsult is a fu*king piece of crap. Go by the IAMAI reports which are directly collected from ISPs Audits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JuxtConsult is a fu*king piece of crap. Go by the IAMAI reports which are directly collected from ISPs Audits.</p>
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