Comments on: 10 Years of Blogging – Where we are now? Where we may be in the Future http://www.watblog.com/2007/12/18/10-years-of-blogging-%e2%80%93-where-we-are-now-where-we-may-be-in-the-future/ The Refreshing Blog on Web, Advertising and Technology in India! Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:43:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Harshil Karia http://www.watblog.com/2007/12/18/10-years-of-blogging-%e2%80%93-where-we-are-now-where-we-may-be-in-the-future/#comment-3271 Harshil Karia Sun, 10 Feb 2008 02:41:05 +0000 http://www.watblog.com/2007/12/18/10-years-of-blogging-%e2%80%93-where-we-are-now-where-we-may-be-in-the-future/#comment-3271 Well i agree - sorry i didnt reply earlier but i think they call this the Halo effect - the iPod did that for an entire range of products for Apple. Similarly we have seen it with Wikipedia. But then again - perception is the only reality. Im glad you enjoyed the video - yea more care should be taken with the lighting - it was all a little hushed up. Well i agree - sorry i didnt reply earlier but i think they call this the Halo effect - the iPod did that for an entire range of products for Apple. Similarly we have seen it with Wikipedia. But then again - perception is the only reality. Im glad you enjoyed the video - yea more care should be taken with the lighting - it was all a little hushed up.

]]> By: amolpatil2k http://www.watblog.com/2007/12/18/10-years-of-blogging-%e2%80%93-where-we-are-now-where-we-may-be-in-the-future/#comment-2945 amolpatil2k Sat, 02 Feb 2008 03:30:43 +0000 http://www.watblog.com/2007/12/18/10-years-of-blogging-%e2%80%93-where-we-are-now-where-we-may-be-in-the-future/#comment-2945 I enjoyed the video. The editing was good. The picture quality especially the lighting could have been better. I liked the silent movie inspired frames in between. The questions were fairly routine. My take on wikipedia is again production centric. You are branding information. If one part of wikipedia is good, it would make us eat the other part which is not so good. But then our whole world is like that, we can't fight the main paradigm. I enjoyed the video. The editing was good. The picture quality especially the lighting could have been better. I liked the silent movie inspired frames in between. The questions were fairly routine. My take on wikipedia is again production centric. You are branding information. If one part of wikipedia is good, it would make us eat the other part which is not so good. But then our whole world is like that, we can’t fight the main paradigm.

]]> By: Harshil Karia http://www.watblog.com/2007/12/18/10-years-of-blogging-%e2%80%93-where-we-are-now-where-we-may-be-in-the-future/#comment-2929 Harshil Karia Fri, 01 Feb 2008 06:25:00 +0000 http://www.watblog.com/2007/12/18/10-years-of-blogging-%e2%80%93-where-we-are-now-where-we-may-be-in-the-future/#comment-2929 Amol - we interviewed Jimmy Wales Recently - the founder of Wikipedia! You can check out the interview there - he talks about Semantic Web and i asked him that question specifically keeping you in mind :)! You can check it out herehttp://www.watblog.com/2008/02/01/watshow-episode-12-exclusive-interview-with-jimmy-wales-wikipedia-founder/ Do let me know me know what you think and maybe we can take forward our conversation there! P.S. I think Jimmy Wales takes a dig at 'grand theorizers' - im sure you'll enjoy the video Also id love some feedback on the editing - iv been doing the recent shows Amol - we interviewed Jimmy Wales Recently - the founder of Wikipedia!
You can check out the interview there - he talks about Semantic Web and i asked him that question specifically keeping you in mind :)!

You can check it out herehttp://www.watblog.com/2008/02/01/watshow-episode-12-exclusive-interview-with-jimmy-wales-wikipedia-founder/

Do let me know me know what you think and maybe we can take forward our conversation there!

P.S. I think Jimmy Wales takes a dig at ‘grand theorizers’ - im sure you’ll enjoy the video

Also id love some feedback on the editing - iv been doing the recent shows

]]> By: amolpatil2k http://www.watblog.com/2007/12/18/10-years-of-blogging-%e2%80%93-where-we-are-now-where-we-may-be-in-the-future/#comment-2869 amolpatil2k Wed, 30 Jan 2008 00:55:20 +0000 http://www.watblog.com/2007/12/18/10-years-of-blogging-%e2%80%93-where-we-are-now-where-we-may-be-in-the-future/#comment-2869 Imagine a ground with producers on one side and consumers on the other. Suddenly the gates open and the producers pounce on the consumers. If a producer has a bigger basket, he is able to corner more consumers. No one waits for any "criteria" before grabbing. Imagine a ground with producers on one side and consumers on the other. Suddenly the gates open and the producers pounce on the consumers. If a producer has a bigger basket, he is able to corner more consumers. No one waits for any “criteria” before grabbing.

]]> By: Harshil Karia http://www.watblog.com/2007/12/18/10-years-of-blogging-%e2%80%93-where-we-are-now-where-we-may-be-in-the-future/#comment-2854 Harshil Karia Tue, 29 Jan 2008 06:33:27 +0000 http://www.watblog.com/2007/12/18/10-years-of-blogging-%e2%80%93-where-we-are-now-where-we-may-be-in-the-future/#comment-2854 Just a Thought - can the trap and never let go mentality really work in a free market? I agree with you that conversations and engagement is more important than traffic - thats what we base our business on - consulting as well as blogging. On second thoughts - as you pointed out, the internet market may not be as 'free' as we think Just a Thought - can the trap and never let go mentality really work in a free market?

I agree with you that conversations and engagement is more important than traffic - thats what we base our business on - consulting as well as blogging.

On second thoughts - as you pointed out, the internet market may not be as ‘free’ as we think

]]> By: amolpatil2k http://www.watblog.com/2007/12/18/10-years-of-blogging-%e2%80%93-where-we-are-now-where-we-may-be-in-the-future/#comment-2850 amolpatil2k Tue, 29 Jan 2008 02:40:08 +0000 http://www.watblog.com/2007/12/18/10-years-of-blogging-%e2%80%93-where-we-are-now-where-we-may-be-in-the-future/#comment-2850 You write on a wall in a park "Life in unfair, isn't it?". I walk by and add "To you, life in unfair. To life, you are unfair!". There were no CMSes, no browsers, no adwords between us, but there was interaction. It is interaction not content that might be king. Why we can't ignore the Net is because it happens to be the park with the most walls. It is human nature to get caught up in the jargon. The Net is only an abstraction. Because Google has been able to usurp all traffic, it can dictate what interactions take place. Although it is too late to stop Google or even prove it wrong (gulp!), what we CAN do is always try and put interaction over traffic. This might involve trying to characterize the writers, the readers, the sessions and so on. And even then we would hit the FAKE barrier (ouch!). Because we'll have a single site optimization view, we would try to optimize only site wide sessions and end up faking our writing. What I seem to be proposing is multisite optimization where sessions are optimized so writers or even readers don't need to fake. Of course, it is unlikely that thousands of webmasters would ever agree to semantic routing just so opportunity cost can be minimized. The TRAP and NEVER LET GO mentality might remain because even Einstein can't devise revenue sharing for such setups. You write on a wall in a park “Life in unfair, isn’t it?”. I walk by and add “To you, life in unfair. To life, you are unfair!”. There were no CMSes, no browsers, no adwords between us, but there was interaction. It is interaction not content that might be king. Why we can’t ignore the Net is because it happens to be the park with the most walls. It is human nature to get caught up in the jargon. The Net is only an abstraction. Because Google has been able to usurp all traffic, it can dictate what interactions take place. Although it is too late to stop Google or even prove it wrong (gulp!), what we CAN do is always try and put interaction over traffic. This might involve trying to characterize the writers, the readers, the sessions and so on. And even then we would hit the FAKE barrier (ouch!). Because we’ll have a single site optimization view, we would try to optimize only site wide sessions and end up faking our writing. What I seem to be proposing is multisite optimization where sessions are optimized so writers or even readers don’t need to fake. Of course, it is unlikely that thousands of webmasters would ever agree to semantic routing just so opportunity cost can be minimized. The TRAP and NEVER LET GO mentality might remain because even Einstein can’t devise revenue sharing for such setups.

]]> By: Harshil Karia http://www.watblog.com/2007/12/18/10-years-of-blogging-%e2%80%93-where-we-are-now-where-we-may-be-in-the-future/#comment-2820 Harshil Karia Sat, 26 Jan 2008 07:46:41 +0000 http://www.watblog.com/2007/12/18/10-years-of-blogging-%e2%80%93-where-we-are-now-where-we-may-be-in-the-future/#comment-2820 Well Amol - i honestly think that the dreamer kinds do change the world - seen Taare Zameen Par? ;) - I think you make one very vaild point though - search that brings forth variety even though there is similarity in meaning, language, and logic. This fundamentally shows how blog search is quite different from other kinds of search. Well Amol - i honestly think that the dreamer kinds do change the world - seen Taare Zameen Par? ;) - I think you make one very vaild point though - search that brings forth variety even though there is similarity in meaning, language, and logic. This fundamentally shows how blog search is quite different from other kinds of search.

]]> By: amolpatil2k http://www.watblog.com/2007/12/18/10-years-of-blogging-%e2%80%93-where-we-are-now-where-we-may-be-in-the-future/#comment-2809 amolpatil2k Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:48:44 +0000 http://www.watblog.com/2007/12/18/10-years-of-blogging-%e2%80%93-where-we-are-now-where-we-may-be-in-the-future/#comment-2809 Thanks guys, I feel like a million bucks. I am just one of those dreamer types who wish all cars had wings. You shouldn't take me seriously at all. You guys are doing a swell job. This world rewards those who go with the flow, as opposed to my types who go around throwing spanners wherever they someone working. Thanks guys, I feel like a million bucks. I am just one of those dreamer types who wish all cars had wings. You shouldn’t take me seriously at all. You guys are doing a swell job. This world rewards those who go with the flow, as opposed to my types who go around throwing spanners wherever they someone working.

]]> By: Harshil Karia http://www.watblog.com/2007/12/18/10-years-of-blogging-%e2%80%93-where-we-are-now-where-we-may-be-in-the-future/#comment-2776 Harshil Karia Thu, 24 Jan 2008 03:18:57 +0000 http://www.watblog.com/2007/12/18/10-years-of-blogging-%e2%80%93-where-we-are-now-where-we-may-be-in-the-future/#comment-2776 Well i agree with you - but Amol is the Man - we are all waiting for his wise comments. Well i agree with you - but Amol is the Man - we are all waiting for his wise comments.

]]> By: Srivatsan http://www.watblog.com/2007/12/18/10-years-of-blogging-%e2%80%93-where-we-are-now-where-we-may-be-in-the-future/#comment-2775 Srivatsan Thu, 24 Jan 2008 02:56:46 +0000 http://www.watblog.com/2007/12/18/10-years-of-blogging-%e2%80%93-where-we-are-now-where-we-may-be-in-the-future/#comment-2775 Thats some goody discussion going on here. Lemme be a spectator. I agree with everyone :). Excellent Posting. Thats some goody discussion going on here. Lemme be a spectator. I agree with everyone :).
Excellent Posting.

]]> By: Harshil Karia http://www.watblog.com/2007/12/18/10-years-of-blogging-%e2%80%93-where-we-are-now-where-we-may-be-in-the-future/#comment-2774 Harshil Karia Thu, 24 Jan 2008 02:33:45 +0000 http://www.watblog.com/2007/12/18/10-years-of-blogging-%e2%80%93-where-we-are-now-where-we-may-be-in-the-future/#comment-2774 I agree wholeheartedly with your idea that blog search needs to be more semantic. But that's a little difficult as of now isn't it? Well, looking at the depth of your comments - i just hope WATBlog can maintain the peer like feel and get you to pour more of your thoughts. You are a perfect example of quality vs quantity Just curious - what are the criteria that currently decide your visit to a site? I agree wholeheartedly with your idea that blog search needs to be more semantic. But that’s a little difficult as of now isn’t it?

Well, looking at the depth of your comments - i just hope WATBlog can maintain the peer like feel and get you to pour more of your thoughts. You are a perfect example of quality vs quantity

Just curious - what are the criteria that currently decide your visit to a site?

]]> By: amolpatil2k http://www.watblog.com/2007/12/18/10-years-of-blogging-%e2%80%93-where-we-are-now-where-we-may-be-in-the-future/#comment-2772 amolpatil2k Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:52:51 +0000 http://www.watblog.com/2007/12/18/10-years-of-blogging-%e2%80%93-where-we-are-now-where-we-may-be-in-the-future/#comment-2772 More people are joining the Net, on the other hand, the ones already there are finding more things to do. So there won't be a sudden squeeze. But the time constraint would keep becoming a more and more important factor. And even then things might not change because consolidation would kick in. So surviving blogs would be doing a 1000 visitors and 100 comments not because of better quality of interaction but because of consolidation in traffic. Only a sudden crash of Adsense servers can stop this dreaded consolidation from taking place. You might be wrong when you say quality must be paid for. Blogs have a peer-like feel to them. This charm cannot be denied and might work for some time to come. Till date blog search like web search is based on machine ranking which is keyword centric. To really experience quality, blog search along with web search would need to become entirely semantic where two paragraphs can have no common words while still having the exact same meaning. Because only then can criteria be formulated for traffic flow control. More people are joining the Net, on the other hand, the ones already there are finding more things to do. So there won’t be a sudden squeeze. But the time constraint would keep becoming a more and more important factor. And even then things might not change because consolidation would kick in. So surviving blogs would be doing a 1000 visitors and 100 comments not because of better quality of interaction but because of consolidation in traffic. Only a sudden crash of Adsense servers can stop this dreaded consolidation from taking place. You might be wrong when you say quality must be paid for. Blogs have a peer-like feel to them. This charm cannot be denied and might work for some time to come. Till date blog search like web search is based on machine ranking which is keyword centric. To really experience quality, blog search along with web search would need to become entirely semantic where two paragraphs can have no common words while still having the exact same meaning. Because only then can criteria be formulated for traffic flow control.

]]> By: Harshil Karia http://www.watblog.com/2007/12/18/10-years-of-blogging-%e2%80%93-where-we-are-now-where-we-may-be-in-the-future/#comment-2757 Harshil Karia Wed, 23 Jan 2008 02:51:07 +0000 http://www.watblog.com/2007/12/18/10-years-of-blogging-%e2%80%93-where-we-are-now-where-we-may-be-in-the-future/#comment-2757 I think they have 'time spent' in terms of analytics - thats exactly what u are saying. I know that there can be a problem with that because more time spent could be just because someone has left the page open without actually reading things - but i think over time all this filters out. Also the level and quality of interaction on blogs is another thing, if people are enthused and putting 500 comments then its great for the blogger - he has been able to generate qualitative interest. But true - more criteria, higher the potential quality of interaction. I think they have ‘time spent’ in terms of analytics - thats exactly what u are saying. I know that there can be a problem with that because more time spent could be just because someone has left the page open without actually reading things - but i think over time all this filters out. Also the level and quality of interaction on blogs is another thing, if people are enthused and putting 500 comments then its great for the blogger - he has been able to generate qualitative interest. But true - more criteria, higher the potential quality of interaction.

]]> By: amolpatil2k http://www.watblog.com/2007/12/18/10-years-of-blogging-%e2%80%93-where-we-are-now-where-we-may-be-in-the-future/#comment-2753 amolpatil2k Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:15:18 +0000 http://www.watblog.com/2007/12/18/10-years-of-blogging-%e2%80%93-where-we-are-now-where-we-may-be-in-the-future/#comment-2753 I am no expert. It just occurred to me that satisfaction comes from quality not quantity. How may people visited a blog is less important than how much they gained from it. Naturally the latter cannot be measured. But it can be optimised by using criteria to manage the traffic flow. When I visit abcblog, that is my only criteria - the writer should be abc. Another criteria could be topic. What I am trying to say is that the more criteria involved in deciding my visit, the higher the potential quality of interaction. I am no expert. It just occurred to me that satisfaction comes from quality not quantity. How may people visited a blog is less important than how much they gained from it. Naturally the latter cannot be measured. But it can be optimised by using criteria to manage the traffic flow. When I visit abcblog, that is my only criteria - the writer should be abc. Another criteria could be topic. What I am trying to say is that the more criteria involved in deciding my visit, the higher the potential quality of interaction.

]]> By: Harshil Karia http://www.watblog.com/2007/12/18/10-years-of-blogging-%e2%80%93-where-we-are-now-where-we-may-be-in-the-future/#comment-2724 Harshil Karia Tue, 22 Jan 2008 04:59:09 +0000 http://www.watblog.com/2007/12/18/10-years-of-blogging-%e2%80%93-where-we-are-now-where-we-may-be-in-the-future/#comment-2724 Great insight - how we need to be consumer centric even in a system where consumer centricism is the overall way of thought. Can you stress more on the direct or proxy pressure of stringent criteria for all our user? Great insight - how we need to be consumer centric even in a system where consumer centricism is the overall way of thought.

Can you stress more on the direct or proxy pressure of stringent criteria for all our user?

]]> By: amolpatil2k http://www.watblog.com/2007/12/18/10-years-of-blogging-%e2%80%93-where-we-are-now-where-we-may-be-in-the-future/#comment-2721 amolpatil2k Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:44:24 +0000 http://www.watblog.com/2007/12/18/10-years-of-blogging-%e2%80%93-where-we-are-now-where-we-may-be-in-the-future/#comment-2721 We happen to be in an era where something called the Net allows anyone and everyone to voice an opinion so there is literally tons of production. No one thinks about how all this is going to get consumed. Production-centric thinking is old hat because the publishing dynamics have changed. Consumption-centric thinking is required. When we say to ourselves - I am going to go out there and start writing a blog, we are being production-centric and doomed to failure. 10 years down the line, you would have either a direct or proxy pressure of stringent criteria before you see any of your stuff getting read. We happen to be in an era where something called the Net allows anyone and everyone to voice an opinion so there is literally tons of production. No one thinks about how all this is going to get consumed. Production-centric thinking is old hat because the publishing dynamics have changed. Consumption-centric thinking is required. When we say to ourselves - I am going to go out there and start writing a blog, we are being production-centric and doomed to failure. 10 years down the line, you would have either a direct or proxy pressure of stringent criteria before you see any of your stuff getting read.

]]> By: Pearl http://www.watblog.com/2007/12/18/10-years-of-blogging-%e2%80%93-where-we-are-now-where-we-may-be-in-the-future/#comment-2317 Pearl Tue, 18 Dec 2007 07:40:43 +0000 http://www.watblog.com/2007/12/18/10-years-of-blogging-%e2%80%93-where-we-are-now-where-we-may-be-in-the-future/#comment-2317 That‘s really an interesting posting. Hey have you come across MoDazzle. I recently registered for it. It’s about accessing social networking sites through mobile. I registered for free and now I can access Facebook and Linkedin through mobile via SMS and email without internet and GPRS. There are many more other services like Google maps, star bucks etc are available on mobile. Check this site. www.modazzle.com/cms/userLogin.html?channel=CM&camp=mobilenetwb That‘s really an interesting posting.

Hey have you come across MoDazzle. I recently registered for it. It’s about accessing social networking sites through mobile. I registered for free and now I can access Facebook and Linkedin through mobile via SMS and email without internet and GPRS. There are many more other services like Google maps, star bucks etc are available on mobile.

Check this site.
http://www.modazzle.com/cms/userLogin.html?channel=CM&camp=mobilenetwb

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