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		<title>By: Tamish Mehra</title>
		<link>http://www.watblog.com/2007/11/15/hindi-on-the-rise-another-portal-thatshindicom-launched/comment-page-1/#comment-8690</link>
		<dc:creator>Tamish Mehra</dc:creator>
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		<description>Why don&#039;t you file a DMCA Complaint ?</description>
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		<title>By: Debashish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debashish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my previous comment the sentence &quot;You have taken my permission before enlisting my blog&quot; should be &quot;You have not taken my permission before enlisting my blog&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my previous comment the sentence &#8220;You have taken my permission before enlisting my blog&#8221; should be &#8220;You have not taken my permission before enlisting my blog&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Debashish</title>
		<link>http://www.watblog.com/2007/11/15/hindi-on-the-rise-another-portal-thatshindicom-launched/comment-page-1/#comment-1983</link>
		<dc:creator>Debashish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for clarifying about News on OneIndia being syndicated from various sources.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Many of the blogs are submitted by the bloggers itself&lt;/blockquote&gt;Thanks for accepting that not &quot;all&quot; blogs were user submitted and that the rest have been added using a bot. And I can say that for sure because you have neither taken any permission nor informed me by email before adding &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.oneindia.in/17738/86/2/showblog.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my Hindi blog&lt;/a&gt; to your site.

&lt;blockquote&gt;No body complains when a blog is listed and get visibility in google blogsearch or in some other search engine. This is also some thing like that.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I am surprised by this unapologetic attitude of Oneindia. Please accept the fact that you are &quot;misusing&quot; the blog content by showing them as your site-content. You have taken my permission before enlisting my blog at your site and I am complaining. There would be several such persons. Your intention in changing the permalink of the Posts and not showing original Blog URL is not to help the site gain prominence on search engines but is simply that you don&#039;t want the site owner to know. Most of us check our referrer logs and I would have known if you had used original post links/site URL on your site (I noticed today that One India has now added the Blog URL as &quot;Close&quot; button/links on the Frame page).

If you really want to be a credible organization instead of justifying your wrong deeds you should immediately remove all such content that has not been submitted by the users directly or have been used by permission. Please remove my Blog listing immediately from your site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for clarifying about News on OneIndia being syndicated from various sources.</p>
<blockquote><p>Many of the blogs are submitted by the bloggers itself</p></blockquote>
<p>Thanks for accepting that not &#8220;all&#8221; blogs were user submitted and that the rest have been added using a bot. And I can say that for sure because you have neither taken any permission nor informed me by email before adding <a href="http://blogs.oneindia.in/17738/86/2/showblog.php" rel="nofollow">my Hindi blog</a> to your site.</p>
<blockquote><p>No body complains when a blog is listed and get visibility in google blogsearch or in some other search engine. This is also some thing like that.</p></blockquote>
<p>I am surprised by this unapologetic attitude of Oneindia. Please accept the fact that you are &#8220;misusing&#8221; the blog content by showing them as your site-content. You have taken my permission before enlisting my blog at your site and I am complaining. There would be several such persons. Your intention in changing the permalink of the Posts and not showing original Blog URL is not to help the site gain prominence on search engines but is simply that you don&#8217;t want the site owner to know. Most of us check our referrer logs and I would have known if you had used original post links/site URL on your site (I noticed today that One India has now added the Blog URL as &#8220;Close&#8221; button/links on the Frame page).</p>
<p>If you really want to be a credible organization instead of justifying your wrong deeds you should immediately remove all such content that has not been submitted by the users directly or have been used by permission. Please remove my Blog listing immediately from your site.</p>
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		<title>By: hari</title>
		<link>http://www.watblog.com/2007/11/15/hindi-on-the-rise-another-portal-thatshindicom-launched/comment-page-1/#comment-1979</link>
		<dc:creator>hari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 07:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please see the answers for your doubt.

Q - Have Oneindia taken permission from the Bloggers before listing them in your “directory”?

A - When ever one blog is added in to oneblogs a mail is sent to the blogger. If he asks us to delete we promptly do that. 

Q - Were the sites voluntarily submitted to you?

A - Many of the blogs are submitted by the bloggers itself.

Q - Have you informed about this “pious” intention to the concerned bloggers?

A - No, we are not intimating the search visibility part since this is the rule of the game. No body complains when a blog is listed and get visibility in google blogsearch or in some other search engine. This is also some thing like that. 


About your charge regarding copying content ..

your comment : About news, I had referred to a “Hindi” news items not English news, that appeared in Jagran and the same news appeared at your site with just the title changed&quot;

Yes I  too mentioned about Hindi news. That is why i mentioned lime &#039; taking content from news services like -  PTI Bhasha, UNI Vartha or ANI Hindi service.&#039;  -  these are Hindi news services from PTI, UNI and ANI.


The story what you are mentioning in your blog [ http://thatshindi.oneindia.in/news/2007/11/14/2007111407301900.html ]

is a UNI Vartha [UNI&#039;s Hindi news service, from which you can get Hindi News]  News. So naturally it will be in many other sites.

Hari</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please see the answers for your doubt.</p>
<p>Q &#8211; Have Oneindia taken permission from the Bloggers before listing them in your “directory”?</p>
<p>A &#8211; When ever one blog is added in to oneblogs a mail is sent to the blogger. If he asks us to delete we promptly do that. </p>
<p>Q &#8211; Were the sites voluntarily submitted to you?</p>
<p>A &#8211; Many of the blogs are submitted by the bloggers itself.</p>
<p>Q &#8211; Have you informed about this “pious” intention to the concerned bloggers?</p>
<p>A &#8211; No, we are not intimating the search visibility part since this is the rule of the game. No body complains when a blog is listed and get visibility in google blogsearch or in some other search engine. This is also some thing like that. </p>
<p>About your charge regarding copying content ..</p>
<p>your comment : About news, I had referred to a “Hindi” news items not English news, that appeared in Jagran and the same news appeared at your site with just the title changed&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes I  too mentioned about Hindi news. That is why i mentioned lime &#8216; taking content from news services like &#8211;  PTI Bhasha, UNI Vartha or ANI Hindi service.&#8217;  &#8211;  these are Hindi news services from PTI, UNI and ANI.</p>
<p>The story what you are mentioning in your blog [ <a href="http://thatshindi.oneindia.in/news/2007/11/14/2007111407301900.html" rel="nofollow">http://thatshindi.oneindia.in/news/2007/11/14/2007111407301900.html</a> ]</p>
<p>is a UNI Vartha [UNI's Hindi news service, from which you can get Hindi News]  News. So naturally it will be in many other sites.</p>
<p>Hari</p>
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		<title>By: Debashish</title>
		<link>http://www.watblog.com/2007/11/15/hindi-on-the-rise-another-portal-thatshindicom-launched/comment-page-1/#comment-1954</link>
		<dc:creator>Debashish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the reply Hari. But you still evaded the basic question: Have Oneindia taken permission from the Bloggers before listing them in your &quot;directory&quot;? Were the sites voluntarily submitted to you? (I am sure not) You may not be monetizing their content now, but thats &quot;now&quot;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Oneindia is just giving an opportunity for the users to comment about one blog which is good for the blog. Since the blog is listed in a different URL, there is greater possibility of listing in the search engines which will increase the page views of that particular blog.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Very poor argument indeed. BTW, Have you informed about this &quot;pious&quot; intention to the concerned bloggers?

About news, I had referred to a &quot;Hindi&quot; news items not English news, that appeared in Jagran and the same news appeared at your site with just the title changed. Must tell you that Dinesh from OneIndia Hindi team has acknowledged on &lt;a href=&quot;http://nuktachini.debashish.com/280#comments&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my Hindi Blog&lt;/a&gt; that in the past your team had &quot;inadvertently&quot; copied news from Google News.

Please note that I have no axe to grind here. I just wish that websites behave responsibly in the changing web-world instead of resorting to gimmicks to grow inorganically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the reply Hari. But you still evaded the basic question: Have Oneindia taken permission from the Bloggers before listing them in your &#8220;directory&#8221;? Were the sites voluntarily submitted to you? (I am sure not) You may not be monetizing their content now, but thats &#8220;now&#8221;.</p>
<blockquote><p>Oneindia is just giving an opportunity for the users to comment about one blog which is good for the blog. Since the blog is listed in a different URL, there is greater possibility of listing in the search engines which will increase the page views of that particular blog.</p></blockquote>
<p>Very poor argument indeed. BTW, Have you informed about this &#8220;pious&#8221; intention to the concerned bloggers?</p>
<p>About news, I had referred to a &#8220;Hindi&#8221; news items not English news, that appeared in Jagran and the same news appeared at your site with just the title changed. Must tell you that Dinesh from OneIndia Hindi team has acknowledged on <a href="http://nuktachini.debashish.com/280#comments" rel="nofollow">my Hindi Blog</a> that in the past your team had &#8220;inadvertently&#8221; copied news from Google News.</p>
<p>Please note that I have no axe to grind here. I just wish that websites behave responsibly in the changing web-world instead of resorting to gimmicks to grow inorganically.</p>
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		<title>By: hari</title>
		<link>http://www.watblog.com/2007/11/15/hindi-on-the-rise-another-portal-thatshindicom-launched/comment-page-1/#comment-1919</link>
		<dc:creator>hari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 07:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Debashish,

aggregating blogs like this and giving a platform for users to write about the blog and vote for the blog is a new concept in the internet which is not so popular in Inida. 

and 

An internet user can identify that oneindia blogs links are not in oneindia&#039;s server since the page appears with a frame on the left. The user can close, the frame on the left, by clicking on the top X icon.  then the url will be the permalink. Pl note that oneindia is not putting any advt in their frame and trying to  monitise the bloggers content. 

Oneindia is just giving an opportunity for the users to comment about one blog which is good for the blog. Since the blog is listed in a different url, there is greater possibility of listing in the search engines which will increase the page views of that particular blog. 

ABOUT THE COPY IN JAGRAN

Oneindia hindi might be taking content from news services like PTI Bhasha, UNI Vartha or ANI Hindi service. They give their news to different media companies. these are Hindi Agencies in India, Ofcource these agencies have English version too which appears in hundreads of sites. 

Hari</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Debashish,</p>
<p>aggregating blogs like this and giving a platform for users to write about the blog and vote for the blog is a new concept in the internet which is not so popular in Inida. </p>
<p>and </p>
<p>An internet user can identify that oneindia blogs links are not in oneindia&#8217;s server since the page appears with a frame on the left. The user can close, the frame on the left, by clicking on the top X icon.  then the url will be the permalink. Pl note that oneindia is not putting any advt in their frame and trying to  monitise the bloggers content. </p>
<p>Oneindia is just giving an opportunity for the users to comment about one blog which is good for the blog. Since the blog is listed in a different url, there is greater possibility of listing in the search engines which will increase the page views of that particular blog. </p>
<p>ABOUT THE COPY IN JAGRAN</p>
<p>Oneindia hindi might be taking content from news services like PTI Bhasha, UNI Vartha or ANI Hindi service. They give their news to different media companies. these are Hindi Agencies in India, Ofcource these agencies have English version too which appears in hundreads of sites. </p>
<p>Hari</p>
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		<title>By: Rajni Singh</title>
		<link>http://www.watblog.com/2007/11/15/hindi-on-the-rise-another-portal-thatshindicom-launched/comment-page-1/#comment-1869</link>
		<dc:creator>Rajni Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 07:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s an old wine in new bottle. But i have recentaly visited a site in hindi www.raviwar.com
it&#039;s mind blowing !
Rajni</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s an old wine in new bottle. But i have recentaly visited a site in hindi <a href="http://www.raviwar.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.raviwar.com</a><br />
it&#8217;s mind blowing !<br />
Rajni</p>
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		<title>By: Debashish</title>
		<link>http://www.watblog.com/2007/11/15/hindi-on-the-rise-another-portal-thatshindicom-launched/comment-page-1/#comment-1859</link>
		<dc:creator>Debashish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mahesh,

Thanks for the clarification.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I don’t think we have claimed anywhere that we are hosting those blogs on oneindia.in.&lt;/blockquote&gt;You have neither mentioned that it&#039;s a Blog directory. 

May I ask why the site is showing blogs &amp; individual posts within frames? (example: http://blogs.oneindia.in/18728/87/2/showblog.php), Aren&#039;t you guys misusing the Blog content without getting permission of the Blogger? Why are the post permalinks changed to oneindia URLs (which when clicked don&#039;t take reader to the Blog post directly but open the blog within a frame page, example: http://blogs.oneindia.in/179437/87/1/showblog.php). 

Are you informing the user anywhere that the  blog is not hosted by you and that you are simply linking? Most gullible readers won&#039;t realize this and you probably know that.

I would also like to know how you are sourcing your news. Yesterday I verified (see my Hindi blog post http://nuktachini.debashish.com/280) that many news items are also published on Jagran website as well. Are you syndicating the content with their permission?

Thanks,

Debashish</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mahesh,</p>
<p>Thanks for the clarification.</p>
<blockquote><p>I don’t think we have claimed anywhere that we are hosting those blogs on oneindia.in.</p></blockquote>
<p>You have neither mentioned that it&#8217;s a Blog directory. </p>
<p>May I ask why the site is showing blogs &amp; individual posts within frames? (example: <a href="http://blogs.oneindia.in/18728/87/2/showblog.php" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.oneindia.in/18728/87/2/showblog.php</a>), Aren&#8217;t you guys misusing the Blog content without getting permission of the Blogger? Why are the post permalinks changed to oneindia URLs (which when clicked don&#8217;t take reader to the Blog post directly but open the blog within a frame page, example: <a href="http://blogs.oneindia.in/179437/87/1/showblog.php" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.oneindia.in/179437/87/1/showblog.php</a>). </p>
<p>Are you informing the user anywhere that the  blog is not hosted by you and that you are simply linking? Most gullible readers won&#8217;t realize this and you probably know that.</p>
<p>I would also like to know how you are sourcing your news. Yesterday I verified (see my Hindi blog post <a href="http://nuktachini.debashish.com/280" rel="nofollow">http://nuktachini.debashish.com/280</a>) that many news items are also published on Jagran website as well. Are you syndicating the content with their permission?</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Debashish</p>
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		<title>By: BG Mahesh</title>
		<link>http://www.watblog.com/2007/11/15/hindi-on-the-rise-another-portal-thatshindicom-launched/comment-page-1/#comment-1855</link>
		<dc:creator>BG Mahesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://blogs.oneindia.in is an Indian blogs directory. I don&#039;t think we have claimed anywhere that we are hosting those blogs on oneindia.in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://blogs.oneindia.in" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.oneindia.in</a> is an Indian blogs directory. I don&#8217;t think we have claimed anywhere that we are hosting those blogs on oneindia.in.</p>
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		<title>By: Debashish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debashish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 06:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They have been there as &quot;OneIndia&quot; so its just another name. And like BlogAdda they also think that stealing is the best way to inorganically add content, the blog section http://blogs.oneindia.in/87/1/1/Hindi.html is nothing but Hindi blogs hosted at Blogger and Wordpress shown in Frame pages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They have been there as &#8220;OneIndia&#8221; so its just another name. And like BlogAdda they also think that stealing is the best way to inorganically add content, the blog section <a href="http://blogs.oneindia.in/87/1/1/Hindi.html" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.oneindia.in/87/1/1/Hindi.html</a> is nothing but Hindi blogs hosted at Blogger and WordPress shown in Frame pages.</p>
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